Saturday, April 26, 2008

SORRY TO RUIN THE FUN, BUT AN ICE AGE COMETH

I was reading our good friend, and one of the last true cavemen, Cavey's blog, about all the things that global warming is, can, and will cause.  Reading his reminded me of this article I came across this past week. An alternative view of our climate today.  The author puts all of his information, from global warming, to The Little Ice Age, The Medieval Warm Period, Sunspots, and historical records.  I think you will find this article very interesting to say the least.  And without the Medieval Warm Period, we wouldn't have the wonderful history of the Vikings!  (I have to give it to the Aussies, I find some of the most interesting and thought provoking articles and information from their news sites) 

It is on the long side, but I hope you enjoy the article   JohnOh

 

SORRY TO RUIN THE FUN,

BUT AN ICE AGE COMETH

by: Phil Chapman --  April 23, 2008 -- The Australian

THE scariest photo I have seen on the internet is www.spaceweather.com, where you will find a real-time image of the sun from the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, located in deep space at the equilibrium point between solar and terrestrial gravity.

What is scary about the picture is that there is only one tiny sunspot.

Disconcerting as it may be to true believers in global warming, the average temperature on Earth has remained steady or slowly declined during the past decade, despite the continued increase in the atmospheric concentration of carbon dioxide, and now the global temperature is falling precipitously.

All four agencies that track Earth's temperature (the Hadley Climate Research Unit in Britain, the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, the Christy group at the University of Alabama, and Remote Sensing Systems Inc in California) report that it cooled by about 0.7C in 2007. This is the fastest temperature change in the instrumental record and it puts us back where we were in 1930. If the temperature does not soon recover, we will have to conclude that global warming is over.

There is also plenty of anecdotal evidence that 2007 was exceptionally cold. It snowed in Baghdad for the first time in centuries, the winter in China was simply terrible and the extent of Antarctic sea ice in the austral winter was the greatest on record since James Cook discovered the place in 1770.

It is generally not possible to draw conclusions about climatic trends from events in a single year, so I would normally dismiss this cold snap as transient, pending what happens in the next few years.

This is where SOHO comes in. The sunspot number follows a cycle of somewhat variable length, averaging 11 years. The most recent minimum was in March last year. The new cycle, No.24, was supposed to start soon after that, with a gradual build-up in sunspot numbers.

----This link is the site mentioned, for the sunspot activity, http://www.spaceweather.com/   also interesting for sun photos through different filters AND a fantastic series of Rainbow pictures and rare rainbow effects from around the world -- John--

 It didn't happen. The first sunspot appeared in January this year and lasted only two days. A tiny spot appeared last Monday but vanished within 24 hours. Another little spot appeared this Monday. Pray that there will be many more, and soon.

The reason this matters is that there is a close correlation between variations in the sunspot cycle and Earth's climate. The previous time a cycle was delayed like this was in the Dalton Minimum, an especially cold period that lasted several decades from 1790.

Northern winters became ferocious: in particular, the rout of Napoleon's Grand Army during the retreat from Moscow in 1812 was at least partly due to the lack of sunspots.

That the rapid temperature decline in 2007 coincided with the failure of cycle No.24 to begin on schedule is not proof of a causal connection but it is cause for concern.

It is time to put aside the global warming dogma, at least to begin contingency planning about what to do if we are moving into another little ice age, similar to the one that lasted from 1100 to 1850.

There is no doubt that the next little ice age would be much worse than the previous one and much more harmful than anything warming may do. There are many more people now and we have become dependent on a few temperate agricultural areas, especially in the US and Canada. Global warming would increase agricultural output, but global cooling will decrease it.

Millions will starve if we do nothing to prepare for it (such as planning changes in agriculture to compensate), and millions more will die from cold-related diseases.

There is also another possibility, remote but much more serious. The Greenland and Antarctic ice cores and other evidence show that for the past several million years, severe glaciation has almost always afflicted our planet.

The bleak truth is that, under normal conditions, most of North America and Europe are buried under about 1.5km of ice. This bitterly frigid climate is interrupted occasionally by brief warm interglacials, typically lasting less than 10,000 years.

The interglacial we have enjoyed throughout recorded human history, called the Holocene, began 11,000 years ago, so the ice is overdue. We also know that glaciation can occur quickly: the required decline in global temperature is about 12C and it can happen in 20 years.

The next descent into an ice age is inevitable but may not happen for another 1000 years. On the other hand, it must be noted that the cooling in 2007 was even faster than in typical glacial transitions. If it continued for 20 years, the temperature would be 14C cooler in 2027.

By then, most of the advanced nations would have ceased to exist, vanishing under the ice, and the rest of the world would be faced with a catastrophe beyond imagining.

Australia may escape total annihilation but would surely be overrun by millions of refugees. Once the glaciation starts, it will last 1000 centuries, an incomprehensible stretch of time.

If the ice age is coming, there is a small chance that we could prevent or at least delay the transition, if we are prepared to take action soon enough and on a large enough scale.

For example: We could gather all the bulldozers in the world and use them to dirty the snow in Canada and Siberia in the hope of reducing the reflectance so as to absorb more warmth from the sun.

We also may be able to release enormous floods of methane (a potent greenhouse gas) from the hydrates under the Arctic permafrost and on the continental shelves, perhaps using nuclear weapons to destabilise the deposits.

We cannot really know, but my guess is that the odds are at least 50-50 that we will see significant cooling rather than warming in coming decades.

The probability that we are witnessing the onset of a real ice age is much less, perhaps one in 500, but not totally negligible.

All those urging action to curb global warming need to take off the blinders and give some thought to what we should do if we are facing global cooling instead.

It will be difficult for people to face the truth when their reputations, careers, government grants or hopes for social change depend on global warming, but the fate of civilisation may be at stake.

In the famous words of Oliver Cromwell, "I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, think it possible you may be mistaken."

Phil Chapman is a geophysicist and astronautical engineer who lives in San Francisco. He was the first Australian to become a NASA astronaut.

 

For More Information on The Little Ice Age, and The Medieval Warming  following are some links --John

http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=12455&tid=282&cid=10046   On The Brink of a new Little Ice Age? --  Woods Hole Institute

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/ctl/resource1000.html     NOAA National Satellite and Information Service

http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=12455   Abrupt Climate Change -- Woos Hole Institute

http://www.pbs.org/saf/1505/features/lia.htm  Hot Planet Cold Comfort -- Scientific American Frontiers  PBS

http://www2.sunysuffolk.edu/mandias/lia/vikings_during_mwp.html  The Vikings During the Medieval Warm Period --

 

24 comments:

  1. He loses me with his comments on the bull dozers and the nuclear devices, but I do not think he is being sarcastic, far from it, I have read some of his articles before, and his historical record is solid, as is the correlation with weather cycles and sunspot activity. And the ice cores do show him correct on warm periods interspaced between glacial periods. Our world is in a constant state of flux, our lives our too short to notice, or perhaps care.

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  2. This is right on point from a little snippet on the evening news tonight. Our largest state Alaska is losing their glaciers at an alarming rate. Global warming is here to stay. When a great white takes out a person on the California Coast you have got to wonder.

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  3. Yep! We're a weird mob mate......Back to read the article now.

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  4. We already have all the refugees in the world there. It's like a Noah's Ark of people already. And yes I have heard we are going into another ice age. I have also heard that it is due to our distance from the sun including the sun spots. We do not circulate the sun in a circle as been thought in the past. But what will happen is that the polar ice will melt somewhat and the colder weather will move away from the antic and the antarctic. Today here it was 85 degrees. That's pretty normal fro this time of year. But guess what, this is the first day we have had over 80 this Summer. And the temperature will drop back down to the 60's again in a few days. People are saying what has happened to Summer. Perhaps your blog is it. Also I have been seeing from some of my friends that they have been having really bad storms including snow and it is almost May for goodness sake. This year will be a much colder year all round than 2007, I'm sure. Also John...this may sound ridiculous, but look where the sun rises in the sky. I'm sure it is further north than it has ever been, at least that is my experience here. I keep telling my husband the Earth has tilted and he thinks I'm some kind of nut. Fascinating article. I'll be going home long before I get frozen out here....LOL.

    Oh...another thing I forgot to mention. Australia had one of it's coldest Summers ever on record this last Summer there. And it rained every second day.

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  5. LOL...just read the frist comment. Spot on! Aussies are always sarcastic and so is their sense of humour....LOL. Actually we're all aliens, brought to you, by an innate sense of global warming in to the next ice age....LMAO.

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  6. Ya know this is about the third blog i've read this on. I wonder when Gore will jump on this bandwagaon?

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  7. hey john ..fantastic i love this stuff..now let me throw a nother wrench in the works..its called a polar magnetic shift..basically the magnetic poles do a reversal sounds innocent ...go read on this one folks

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  8. You chaps must be onto something! :-) Phil has been saying the same thing for years now!

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  9. Al Gore invented the internet and Global warming....its a hoax...im now going to go stuff my cave with extra insulation...Good post Dr.O

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  10. typically every 20,000 odd years or so..and we are getting a little past due

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  11. John,

    Actually this doesn't surprise me.

    Several years back, in the 1970's there was a handfull of scientist who were saying the exact same thing, that the earth is going into a second ice age, and that there would be a period of protracted heating before this came to pass. Kind of like the calm before the storm.

    Even Dr. Carl Sagan in his book and mini series Cosmos, projected that the Earth;s future could be headed toward a second ice age, and that man could do nothing to stop this, because it was part of the natural cycle of the planet.

    I was reminded of Sagan, because of the piece of music you are using in this blog, it was used in Cosmos, does that tell you how good my memory is?

    As you said, the Aussies do have a way of making us think.

    As they would say down under. Have a good day mate.

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  12. John,

    Actually this doesn't surprise me.

    Several years back, in the 1970's there was a handfull of scientist who were saying the exact same thing, that the earth is going into a second ice age, and that there would be a period of protracted heating before this came to pass. Kind of like the calm before the storm.

    Even Dr. Carl Sagan in his book and mini series Cosmos, projected that the Earth;s future could be headed toward a second ice age, and that man could do nothing to stop this, because it was part of the natural cycle of the planet.

    I was reminded of Sagan, because of the piece of music you are using in this blog, it was used in Cosmos, does that tell you how good my memory is?

    As you said, the Aussies do have a way of making us think.

    As they would say down under. Have a good day mate.

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  13. I think a second ice age is far more likely than 'global warming' myself.... The fact that the glaciers are melting is not proof of global warming so much as proof of a shifting of the seasons, imho. I have read before about the polar magnetic shift that Gary mentioned. Fascinating stuff. It has been an especially bitter and long winter in many parts of the world. Not so much here in Ohio (except in my mind!) but many other places for sure!

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  14. I have heard this before and think it interesting that people can look at data in such different ways.

    I recently took a class on analysizing test results and how some data is "thrown out." This often happens with "out-lyers" and I asked if this could be considered manipulating data....to which my prof replied...all data is manipulated.

    I think that we need to do what we can to be kind to our plantet, but there are certain die that have been set in motion that we don't, and never had, control over. We need to accept that human beings are mere cogs in the wheel of the universe.

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  15. I think you nailed it!

    we are but 'dust in the wind' in the grand scheme of things, and while how we treat our planet will definitely have consequences in the next generations...there are some things we have no control over.

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  16. "There are lies, damned lies, and then there are statistics." Mark Twain

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  17. Well I know where I will be tomorrow night, looking for auroras and listening to vivaldi !!!

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  18. Thanks Mr O I did read this and promptly went out and invested in polar fleece sleeping bags, snow tents, bunsen burner cookers, tent pegs and survey pegs. I have 2000m2 and could buy more over a few years...if I rent out 10m2 pegged and tented I could be on to a good thing...whaddya think?
    Bring on the refugees...! hehehe

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  19. Yeah, like you said, when he mentioned the bulldozers and nukes, that kind of turned me off. But I guess it's as likely as anything else. I do know that it is still really freakin cold here for this time of year. And as Ronnie mentioned too-it's been snowing in all kinds of places where it should not be snowing now. I will check out some of those other links-I hadn't heard of the thing Gary mentioned. Glad to see Robbie back too. And of course I heartily approve of your choice of music. :) Thanks for this interesting post John, I will have to read more about it.

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  20. Hmmmmm........you are right.....that is really interesting...I dont know whats gonna happen in future yrs......and I dont see how they can predict what will happen either when they cant seem to get the weather right very often here and now....LOL I guess it's just an educated guess...I dunno

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  21. Hei John

    Most interesting read this.

    I remember from before a couple of decades, the talk was always
    about the new ice age coming, too!!
    There never was a mention about the opposite until quite recently.

    Finland is already like a freezer in the winter -- which lasts half the year in the south and longer in the north --- so i cannot picture it any colder... :)

    But certainly,one gets some mighty magical shots with that freeze and chill!! lol

    Good points and know about sunspots and whatnot in correlation to the weather on earth.

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