Tuesday, November 25, 2008

SOMETHING TO HOLD ONTO

For what it is worth, a couple of good follow up articles to the Intelligent Women blog.  Guess it might also prove men have more sense than we are given credit for. 

SKINNY MODELS ARE A 'TURN OFF' IN ADVERTISING CLAIM SCIENTISTS

It has been a golden rule of advertising from its inception - thin models sell more products to women. The only trouble is, it is not true, claims new research.

By Richard Alleyne, Science Correspondent; The Telegraph UK online

Researchers have found that skinny models are actually a turn off to consumers in TV commercials and other advertising.

They found that images of super-thin models carry no edge in encouraging young women to buy and for the majority of adult women ads showing skinny girls actually discouraged sales.

So-called plus-size models, on the other hand, actually encouraged them to

buy.

In the study psychologist Phillippa Diedrichs, of the University of Queensland, Australia, created a series of ads for underwear, shampoo and a party dress.

Each ad was made twice, once using a skinny size eight model and another featuring a size 12 woman.

When the ads were shown to 400 young women, they produced no difference in the likelihood for them to buy.

However, when women aged between 18 and 25 saw the adverts they felt better - and more likely to buy - after viewing the images of the larger models.

Miss Diedrichs said: "For anything to change, research has to be convincing, not just to government and health researchers, but also to people in advertising who actually make the decisions.

 

"Often people make the argument that thinness sells, and that's why they use slim models.

"But we can change the images we see and still sell products but also make people feel better about themselves."

The Unilever soap brand Dove has based its image on a campaign using "real women" and highlighting how much imagery in advertising is manipulated.

But critics point out that the same firm uses more traditional imagery to promote other brands, such as Lynx deodorant, which features skinny models.

There have been concerted campaigns against the ultra-thin "size zero" with fashion weeks in Madrid and Milan banning models from the catwalk who were of a weight deemed unhealthy by the Body Mass Index measure.

And another story from Australia:

WHAT MEN WANT: THIN'S NOT IN

by Caroline Marcus, Brisbane Times online

 

More Australian men will choose size 14 over size eight when it comes to the body shape of their ideal woman, igniting debate on what it means to be thin.

Men's magazine FHM conducted an online survey asking whether its readers found a size eight, size 12 or size 14 model most attractive.

The survey drew 60,000 responses. Four-fifths said they were more attracted to the size 12 and 14 models than the size eight model pictured.

Most votes went to the size 12 woman, with 41 per cent of respondents saying she had the body shape of their "ideal girlfriend".

The size 14 body was preferred by 39 per cent, while the size eight came a distant third with 20 per cent.

FHM editor Ben Smithurst said the findings were good news for women.

"A piddling 20 per cent of readers selected our size eight model pictured as their ideal girl physique, while the size 12 and 14 models easily outscored their skinnier rival," he said.


25 comments:

  1. this just proves what i've always said, and so few women believe me... men LIKE curvy women :-)

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  2. I was a skinny little kid...I sure got over that! Actually my curves have curves. Hubby likes me this way, although dropping a few lbs would give my aching back some relief.

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  3. Hhhmmm I guess things are changing...nice to know..Thank you..I guess my curves are just fine then.

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  4. well done Pengy and women and men for that matter need to learn to be comfortable in their own skin no matter the size...

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  5. Interesting article. It really doesn't surprise me much though. We women are much harder on ourselves than guys are. Truly.

    Although, I have to laugh at your mention of 'so called' plus size models. That Whitney up there, who won one of the America's Next Top Model shows, is a size 10. Not exactly a plus size. And it used to annoy the heck out of me that she was labeled that, and that she'd go on and on about being 'big' and how she had to learn to love that about herself and all that she's had to deal with about being called fat. SIZE 10!! Hellooooo..... *rolls eyes*

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  6. You have found out an area I am rather ignorant in, women's sizes! Perhaps I should have consulted one before posting?

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  7. no, no.... anything over 6 IS plus to the fashion industry. But when you go to a store...regular sizes ends at 14 or 16 and women's or plus sizes start at 16 or 18 depending.....

    So, a size 10 is really squarely in the normal range, in real life. But for fashion designers...they want their models to be really no more than a 3. Stupid really, because only maybe 01% of the population is a 3.

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  8. yepper john most models even fall into the 0 to 2 size range ...the reason fashion uses ultra skinny models is due to the fact in their eyes a model is nothing but a hanger for the clothing they like the fact that the eyes are on the designs and NOT the models this goes back to the 60s with Twiggy from the UK even though a lot of big tah do is made over the models the designers still prefer the light to shine on their designs

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  9. I don't care what size they are, but I would much prefer a woman who can down a pizza with me on a Saturday night watching movies... and not be concerned about how I'm going to view her. I am not overly concerned about the "shape" of a woman as it's who she is that matters anyway. :D

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  10. Hmmmm......I used to be a nice slim size 7. BUT, then I turned 30. Things have not been the same since, but my boyfriend of many years likes that I EAT when we go out.....I am a comfy 8 or 10 now. (fluctuates)

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  11. agrree...I like meat baby....grrrrrr

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  12. Man have I got meat..LOL..luckily I'm taken...and he likes me just like I am even though I want to ask for butter for my "rolls" giggle.

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  13. hell, Marilyn Monroe was a 14... what does that tell ya? LOL

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  14. In my lifetime, I have dated tall and short, thin and heavy, average to beautiful in looks, from the brilliant to okay. But, it isn't about the body, never has been, at least by my way of thought.

    Something I have always believed in in the past, do now, and will, all the tomorrow's to come ... "tis all in the eye of the beholder". I have never let body size get in the way of who I "see". It's her attitude, how she feels about herself that determines her real beauty, her sensual side and her savvy. Granted, we all have our preconceived notions of the person we want in our life, but when good old cupid decides to load up his bow, that's it. It's over. You're hooked.

    ... and I say be damned what others may think. Being happy and content and in love is what matters ... that's all that matters.

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  15. these ultra skinny models actually look ill and unhealthy ... curvy is far more pleasing to the eye and far more REAL !

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  16. John, thank you for being such a wonderful advocate for us curvy girls! You're my hero!

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  17. I use to date/marry only thin women. My exwife was 5' 11" tall, and weighed only about 125 lbs when we were married. After our divorce I later met, and dated a lady who was only 5'4" tall, and weighed a little over 200 lbs..It was her charm, and personality that drew mw to her.She also had a beautiful face. Yes, it took a little getting use to, but later on was able to completely accept her as she was. I came to realize then just how shallow I had been in my thinking. Now, I don't judge a woman by her weight anymore, but only by her personality. I am fortunate to have found someone now who measures out to be what I call the complete package.

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  18. awwwww....you're the best John...good you're already taken or the women would be lined up outside your door fighting over you.

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  19. waaaa!!! now i know why i never got married! waaaa!!!

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  20. Well, I want to get in that line outside your door that Cherie was talking about! Will be in the company of some smart woman!!! Just being in that line shows how smart they are!!! Have to agree with her..."Your the best, John" too! hmmm, and that giggle girl is cute! BUT the best comment so far in my opinion is Bills'... great mind... great attitude... so right on! The beauty is in the heart.. the soul...Love is what it is all about...!!!

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  21. I know which line I'm getting in...(and it's not the one behind my best friend either). You have the best blogs john!!!

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  22. Well this is an inspiring post to be sure. I admire what Dove is doing with their real woman campaign.

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